From:	Jeff Clark
Sent:	Monday, November 08, 2004 11:36 AM
To:	Bill Larch (E-mail); Bob Campbell (E-mail); Cathy Devlin (E-mail); Greg Shank (E-mail); Jeff Clark (E-mail); Jim Gutzwiller (E-mail); Jim Matasic (E-mail); Jim Moritz (E-mail); Jim Wells (E-mail); Ken Goshorn (E-mail); Mark Cooper (E-mail); Michael Minotti (E-mail); Pat Fetterman (E-mail); Riccardo Conti (E-mail); Ron Buck (E-mail); Scott Richards (E-mail); Steve Kennedy (E-mail); Wim Van Dam (E-mail)
Subject:	Minutes of the November 8, 2004 T-12 Conference Call
Attendance - Steve Kennedy, Riccardo Conti, Jeff Clark, Greg Shank, Pat Fetterman, Jim Moritz, John Haegelin, Charlie Passut, Bob Campbell, Wim van Dam, Jim Matasic, Jim Gutzwiller, Scott Richards, Ken Goshorn

Membership - no changes.

Meeting Minutes of 10/20/04 - approved.

Draft 1 of Test Procedure
- Injector Opening Pressure Specifications
Same as T-11, Jeff will update with Draft 2.

- Humidity Measurement and Location
This still needs to be done, the procedure addresses this properly. It is stressed to the labs that they need to be in conformance.

- Piston Deposits
Are still desired at this time, even with the phosphated pistons. Mack's feedback is that they would like to emphasize the undercrown. Guidelines for rating dark pistons will be distributed to the group.

- Measurement of Sulfur in Fuel
The fuel spec should be 7 - 15 ppm by D 5453.

- Location of CO2 Exhaust Probe
The ebp tap and t/c are to be 12-16" downstream of turbo; the t/c is not to be upstream of the ebp. The CO2 probe is to be 14-17" downstream of the turbo and downstream of both the ebp and t/c.

- 24 vs. 25 hour oil sampling interval
The 25-hour schedule will stay.

Hardware Update
- T-12 Kit - the question was asked about when a T-12 kit will be available as its own item (ie. not taking parts from T-10 and T-11 kits). The panel will wait for feedback from TEI.

- Test Parts List
The parts list is attached, Jeff will include in Draft 2. The parts list will be examined at the Paulsboro to determine supply source.

- Modine Cooler
Both part numbers will be listed. Ken looked into some pricing information via ordering through TEI. Labs are to contact Ron Buck for any new information. 

Ring Wear Measurement Sub-Group Update
Ken Goshorn will have an update in Paulsboro.

EGR Coolers Cleaning Procedure
No news. SwRI is going to look at blowing out carbon and then using water and soap.

Next Teleconference Call/Meeting - next call is scheduled on Wednesday 11/17 at 2:00 pm EST. The next face-to-face meeintg will be in Paulsboro, NJ on November 22 and 23.

Regards,

Jeff Clark
Staff Engineer
ASTM Test Monitoring Center
6555 Penn Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15206
412-365-1032
412-848-8843 (cell)
jac@astmtmc.cmu.edu