From:	Jeff Clark
Sent:	Tuesday, October 18, 2005 12:20 PM
To:	'Van Dam, Wim (WVDA)'; 'Warren.A.Totten@Cummins.com'; 'runkle@ashland.com'; 'Bob.Campbell@AftonChemical.com'; 'Brandon Weldon'; 'Charlie.Passut@AftonChemical.com'; 'dan.pridemore@aftonchemical.com'; 'dmstehouwer@comcast.net'; 'greg.shank@macktrucks.com'; 'Jim McGeehan (jiam@chevrontexaco.com)'; 'jim.moritz@perkinelmer.com'; 'jwells@swri.edu'; 'Joe Franklin'; 'John Haegelin'; 'kenneth.goshorn@macktrucks.com'; 'Matasic, James (jmat@lubrizol.com)'; 'matthew.urbanak@shell.com'; 'Otterholm Bengt'; 'pat.fetterman@infineum.com'; 'riccardo.conti@exxonmobil.com'; 'rbuck@tei-net.com'; 'srichards@swri.org'; 'steven.kennedy@exxonmobil.com'; 'Tom Franklin'; 'Rutherford, Jim (JARU)'; 'Cooper, Mark (MAWC)'; 'Fernandez, Frank Jr.  (FFER)'; Jeff Clark
Subject:	Minutes of Mack SP Conference Call of October 18 2005
Attendance
Jeff Clark, Wim van Dam, Jim Matasic, Jess Hamilton, Riccardo Conti, Bob Campbell, Cathy Devlin, Greg Shank, Ron Buck, Jim Rutherford, Joe Franklin, Phil Scinto, Scott Richards, Jim Moritz

Agenda
The T-10 bearing issue was dropped from the agenda. The issue in question was resolved at the laboratory and is not an industry issue. Ron Buck requested that T-10 top crowns be added to the agenda. 

T-10/T-12 Correlation
Wim reiterated the panel's request for data to generate T-10 limits in the T-12 test. The spreadsheet for reporting data to Jeff Clark of the TMC (in a blind manner) is attached.

T-11 Correction Factor
Wim opened the floor for discussion. Two tests have been received since the CF was implemented. Both have passed. ExxonMobil will be running shortly, but they have concerns that the CF will put them severe. SwRI does not foresee any references in the immediate future. Afton will likely reference in a couple months. PerkinElmer has one test running. It looks like it will take a few months before we reach 15 tests. Phil Scinto expressed concerns: not every lab showed the same level of severity, the severity shift has not been the same for everyone, there are labs for which the CF does not seem to apply. Phil expressed the thought that Severity Adjustments be used instead of the CF. Much discussion occurred and many 'back of the envelope' proposals were tossed about. The general consensus was that there are some ideas that merit consideration, but we would not be able to come to agreement without a formal proposal. Members were encouraged to evaluate the T-11 data as it comes in and bring forward, in a formal manner, any proposals that they would like the panel to consider. Jim Rutherford was asked to evaluate the possibility of stand or lab severity issues. Bob Campbell suggested that operational issues be examined as well.

T-10 Parts Inventory (top crowns)
Ron Buck was asked to poll the labs regarding test activity. Based on that poll, Ron indicates a 12 test inventory of parts (top crowns are the limiting factor). There has been a design change to the top crowns. Ron requested guidance from the panel as to whether TEI needs to pursue the new crowns or whether the T-12 will replace the T-10. Again, the need for T-10 / T-12 correlation data was strongly expressed (spreadsheet attached, a deadline of October 31, 2005). If the T-12 can replace the T-10, then new parts aren't necessary. Greg asked if we had enough parts (at labs and TEI) to get us to June '06. Ken Goshorn indicated that turnaround for a new parts order would be approximately 3 months. Greg asked the labs to respond to Ron with an estimate of T-10 testing levels (estimates due by 10/21/05). The estimates need to include the labs' inventory and their expected usage rate. A teleconference in November will be held to discuss the results of the correlation data and the inventory/activity survey.

Next Meeting
To be determined; likely a teleconference in early November.

Regards,

Jeff Clark
Staff Engineer
ASTM Test Monitoring Center
6555 Penn Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15206
412-365-1032
412-848-8843 (cell)
jac@astmtmc.cmu.edu