From:	Jeff Clark
Sent:	Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:53 PM
To:	Andrew Ritchie (E-mail); Andy Broff (E-mail); Bill Larch (E-mail); Bob Campbell (E-mail); Brad Carter (E-mail); Cathy Devlin (E-mail); Greg Shank (E-mail); Jeff Clark (E-mail); Jim Gutzwiller (E-mail); Jim Matasic (E-mail); Jim Moritz (E-mail); Jim Rutherford (E-mail); Joan Evans (E-mail); John Haegelin (E-mail); Jose Gutierrez (E-mail); Keith Selby (E-mail); Ken Goshorn (E-mail); Mark Cooper (E-mail); Michael Minotti (E-mail); Mr. Chris Castanien (E-mail); Pat Fetterman (E-mail); Riccardo Conti (E-mail); Ron Buck (E-mail); Scott Richards (E-mail); Steve Kennedy (E-mail); Todd Dvorak (E-mail); Wim Van Dam (E-mail)
Subject:	T-12 Minutes of November 3 2005
Attendance
Mark Cooper, Jeff Clark, Jim Moritz, John Haegelin, Joe Franklin, Jim Matasic, Jess Hamilton, Bob Campbell, Todd Dvorak, Riccardo Conti, Ron Buck, Jim Rutherford, Jim Gutzwiller, Scott Richards, Greg Shank, Ken Goshorn

Minutes
Minutes of October 26, 2005 were approved.

Action Item Update
Riccardo asked if the proposed (attached) locations for measuring the air and egr systems delta p were acceptable. The group agreed with these locations. Labs are to bring any available data to the Nov. 16 meeting. Lubrizol has seen a Phase I drop of 50 kPa across the egr system and very little drop across the Modine. They should have Phase II data by the next meeting.

Cylinder Liner Wear
Todd's presentations are attached. Much review and discussion occurred. Jim Matasic stated that he has been able, in Phase I, to run with different boost levels and still keep his CO2 within the bands. Much, much more discussion occurred and the discussion transitioned into controlling AFR/CO2 issues and when ltms targets can be derived.

Action Items
Labs are to follow up with the air and egr system dp measurements.
Riccardo Conti will supply a CO2 measurement survey.
Labs are to look at the effects of using test targets (arithmetic means and std deviations) from Jim Rutherford's analysis. Labs are to outlier screen data per Jim's method; and be prepared to discuss all of this at the Nov. 16th meeting.

Next Meeting
Conference call on Thursday Nov 10, 11:00 EST.
LTMS/TARGETS WILL BE THE ONLY TOPIC ON THIS CALL.

Nov 16 Meeting Tentative Agenda Items 
Air / EGR system dp
Boost differences / CO2 levels (Labs are strongly encourage to provide data)
LTMS System
Quality Index (time permitting)

Regards,

Jeff Clark
Staff Engineer
ASTM Test Monitoring Center
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Pittsburgh, PA 15206
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412-848-8843 (cell)
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