From:	Fetterman, Pat [Glen.Fetterman@Infineum.com]
Sent:	Monday, December 04, 2006 3:35 PM
To:	Armel Budd; Bill Buscher (E-mail); Bill Larch (E-mail); Campbell, Bob; Cathy Devlin; charlie.passut@aftonchemical.com; Dan Pridemore; Dick Patrick (E-mail); Glen Fetterman; Greg Miller; greg.shank@volvo.com; Hind Abi-Akar; James Gutzwiller; James Matasic (E-mail); Jeff Clark; Jesse Hamilton; Jim McGeehan; jim.moritz@intertek.com; Jim Rutherford; joe.franklin@intertek.com; John Haegelin; Keith Selby; kenneth.goshorn@volvo.com; Mark Cooper; Matt Urbanak (E-mail); Michael Minotti; Norbert Nann (E-mail); Riccardo Conti; Ron Buck; Scott Harold; Scott Richards (E-mail); Stacy Bond; Steve Kennedy; Warren Totten (E-mail); Wim Van Dam
Cc:	Alessi, Mike; Finn, Rick
Subject:	Unconfirmed minutes of our December 1, 2006 teleconference.
Call participants -
Jeff Clark; Pat Fetterman (secretary); Bob Campbell; Cathy Devlin; Greg Shank; Jim Gutzwiller; Jim Matasic; Jim Rutherford; Mark Cooper (chairman); Riccardo Conti; Ron Buck; Scott Richards; Jim Moritz

Agenda -
0) Develop position on T-12 limits to replace T-9 test.
0) Develop position on T-12 limits to replace T-6 test.

Discussion -
Three proposals were offered to use the Mack T-12 test as a surrogate for the Mack T-9:
Proposal            Max RWL, mg       Max Liner Wear, microns      Max EOT lead, ppm
Oronite                   105                          35                                         70
Lubrizol                  130                          34                                         67
Afton                      117                          26                                         60
Following several minutes of discussion, Pat Fetterman and Greg Shank offered a set of "compromise" limits:
                              120                         30                                         65
Greg moved and Jim Matasic seconded offering these limits as a recommendation to the HDEOCP.
The motion passed with 5 affirmative, 0 negative and 5 waive.

For the T-12 to T-6, Oronite indicated that they did not believe the development of limits is possible, as the tests measure dramaticlly different aspects of oil performance. Limit proposals were offered by Lubrizol and Afton:
Lubrizol                  180                          47                                         N/A
Afton                      135                          38                                         N/A
Once again, Greg moved to offer a set of compromise limits to the HDEOCP with the added note that these limits do not have full support by the Mack Surveillance Panel. In addition, some Panel members believe that the use of the T-12 as a T-6 surrogate is not technically supportable, as the tests are too different from one another.
Compromise           150                          40                                         N/A
This motion also passed with 5 affirmative, 1 negative and 4 waive.

Next meeting-
A face to face meeting in San Antonio is planned for the week of January 22, 2006. Tentative timing is to interface with the Cummins and Caterpillar Surveillance Panels to meet all day Tuesday the 23rd and through mid-day on Wednesday the 24th.

Respectfully subbmitted,
Pat